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1  ROATAN DIVING / General Discussion / Re: a couple questions on: January 29, 2007, 07:24:18 AM
Hi Bob

You can get to Copan in a day from Roatan and Utila. Getting back that day is not possible due to getting stuck in La Ceiba. Beware of getting caught there unless like me you may enjoy the seedier side of life. There is nothing to see in La Ceibe itself but the area around has a lot of things to do. You can go white water rafting at one of companies there, they will pick you up at the ferry if asked and care about your enjoyment. See who is motivated !

There are rare options to get from Roatan direct to Utila, otherwise you have to transit at La Ceiba. 2 tickets ! ahem... sceptic alert.

Cayos cochinos so far as I know have some kind of kids diving marine biology camp. There is equipment there therfore and im sure it is possible to organise something ? dont take my word for it though. But I dont think there is any real reef like Roatan.
If anyone knows of this let us all know.
2  ROATAN COMMUNITY / General Discussion / Poverty on Roatan, Honduras on: August 29, 2006, 01:20:24 PM
Author: Robert L. Black

Article:
POVERTY ON ROATAN, HONDURAS

Many of you, reading this, are going to learn things about poverty in third world countries that you did not know. Many of you are going to have to change your thinking about just what poverty means in a third-world country. I know I did! I had to change one of my main conclusions. Perhaps what might even be considered a stereotype. Fortunately, the focus of Spartanburg Angels has been on track even though my thinking might not have been!

The intent of this article is to give you an eye-level glimpse of poverty on the island of Roatan, Honduras. It is not a scholarly article and makes use of several assumptions which are not verified. But it is written from the prospective of someone who has seen conditions there, amongst the indigenous peoples, in one of the poorer areas of Roatan. Please bear with me through the following dull statistics. They will reinforce just what poverty is. We, here in the United States, do not even have a glimmer of an idea what poverty is! They set the stage for understanding.

A comparison will be made with the United States in order to put the level of poverty is greater perspective. More can be learned about Roatan and our mission from our website at:
www.spartanburgangels.com . Anyone with comments may contact me
at: www.achristianplace@charter.net .

Median income data for the United States was taken from Census Bureau information for the years between 2004 and 2006 and applicable to the state of South Carolina, USA. The data taken as applicable to the indigenous families of Roatan, Honduras is from personal contact and other information available on the internet.

In June, 2006 we (Spartanburg Angels mission team) spent one week doing a Vacation Bible School program in one of the local schools. This school was a 'state' (Government supported) school in what is generally considered to be one of the poorer areas of Roatan.

The comparisons are made based on the following: It was previously reported that the 'average' indigenous family in this area lived on $180 (US) per month. While that would be hard to verify, it is supported by the fact that a reasonable income for a worker there might be $10.00 (US) per day. Given 52 weeks in a year and someone working 5 days per week would yield $216.76 per month.

The poverty level for a family of 4 in South Carolina, USA is $18,850 / year or $1,571 / month. That is 7.25 times as much in US dollars as the average family in Roatan in this community.

What is most striking is the comparison of what the family gets for their level of income. In the United States the poverty level income assures the family of all the pure water they need for drinking, cooking and bathing at anytime they need it. They also have electricity for lighting and cooking and heating (Perhaps gas for cooking and heating), clothing and an ample amount of nutritious food and access to medical care beyond their means to pay for it. All this includes a roof over their head and a refrigerator to keep food cool and safe to eat. They may or may not have additional amenities such as TV, air conditioning, automobiles.

In the community we observed they get running water for 2 hours each 8 days. Calling it 'pure' water is problematical and quite frankly, probably not safe for US citizens to drink. The average family does not have electricity, or if they do it only for the barest necessities such as lighting at night (Electrical usage rates are approximately three times our rate). They have no refrigeration and needless to say; air conditioning is all but unheard of. Indoor plumbing and sanitation procedures would horrify our sensibilities. The best medical care they might receive is at a clinic that charges the token rate of $20 Lempira (Honduran currency) which is equivalent to approximately
$1.08 (US). Using that same rate to apply to a doctor visit here in the US would be $9.43. Do you know where you can go to a doctor for that amount?

Additionally, in order to go to school, the children must supply their own uniform (required) and also their own school supplies.
More children do not attend school than do attend school. The 'state' schools go through the 6th. grade but the average child quits school in the fourth grade in order to earn money for the family.

This is where my uninformed conclusion collided with the reality of their situation! We found them happy and I thought it was because this is all they know and because they had no hopes of attaining more. No dreams or route to realistically fulfill their dreams if they had them. This is where my thinking was so terribly wrong. Actually, it is because they have a much simpler life than we do. When told this I had to think back to the 40's and 50's to put it into perspective. A time when kick-the-can, Oly, oly, in free, Simon says and such were free and fun pass-times. When sitting on a neighbors porch and just talking was a wonderful experience.

That is their life. Those in third-world countries. There they don't have to depend on $50.00 to go out at night; to a movie or dining to be happy. They don't have to obsess about keeping up with the neighbors because every one is poor. Well, not everyone. One of their neighbors might be a millionaire, but they just ignore them or better yet; make fun of the 'gringo's'
obsessive need to have everything the way it was at home (US or where ever they are from.). Their enjoyment comes from an impromptu soccer game or even sharing in an impromptu get together thrown by someone who had some unexpected money come in. These are the same entertainment sources your parents had and those I remember.

And as for dreams; it is difficult to have dreams when two out of every ten children never see their eighteenth birthday. This is not because they are dying from complex problems, but simple ones! That is where the focus of Spartanburg Angels was right on track despite my former incorrect conclusions. In the United States $100 buys little if anything. There, a hundred dollars can buy A.I.D.S. tests for the whole family, transportation for treatment at Familias Saludables (The A.I.D.S. education and treatment clinic.) if they are positive, family health and dental visits for a couple of months at Clinica Esperanza (A local health clinic.). There, that same $100 can improve education and health care. It can save a babies life by providing powdered baby formula for Familias Saludables (The A.I.D.S. education and treatment clinic.)

We have (Here in the US.) all led the privileged life and it is difficult to make a profound change in someone's life. There it is easy to do without a lot of time or money! Just a little money in the right place saves lives and educates a child . Will you help?



 

About the author:
Robert Black has an "Associate Degree" in business management and extensive experience in retail. He is also the president and founder of Spartanburg Angels ( www.spartanburgangels.com , which is a non-profit organization dedicated to providing educational and medical aid to the indigenous children of Roatan, Honduras.
3  ROATAN DIVING / General Discussion / Re: Reccomendations for cruisers? on: August 17, 2006, 05:50:35 PM
Check out the links http://roatan-diving.com/content/view/36/1/ for each dive shop in west end.

That is what I would advise. I do know coconut tree do offer a combo of snorkling and diving on their afternoon boats. Let us know if they get back to you and what ytou think. I would advise going into the west end. I think Sueno´s offer a transport also from a cruisship. That you would have to check out, but I dont know if they offer snorkling.

Hope that helps.

 Smiley
4  ROATAN DIVING / Marine Park Chat / Re: A more aggressive Marine Park Patrol on: August 09, 2006, 08:17:19 AM
Is there an office hotline ? -thats good news that its down, hopefully it's not them being smarter but doing it out of hours.

I would still like to see a boat id system wherby if police arent available then the patrols just issue a ticket for sorting out later like parking attendants dont have police with them... this would eventually reduce the need for the police, although I realise it isnt so easy.

m
5  ROATAN DIVING / Marine Park Chat / Re: Pesticide alternatives on: August 09, 2006, 08:13:45 AM
Didnt they kill off complettely the sand flies in the other caribbean islands ? or do they still have to spray them.


We all know first hand the discomfort with these buggers. Every now and again I forget to spray or coat myself and I spend the day / evening in total discomfort.
6  UTILA DIVING / General Discussion / Re: First in! on: August 09, 2006, 08:05:00 AM
Hi Trey

Welcome aboard the starship utila-diving.com ! Did you check out the things you can do with your profile yet, like add your favourite dive site and logged dives etc?

What do you like about Utila that keeps you comming back.

We would love to get any stories you might have about diving in Utila or just Utila stories. I would love to see this take off as a community. Do you have any photos you could upload ?

Also do you have any suggestions for the website.

dj mojito
7  ROATAN DIVING / General Discussion / PADI Newsletter on: July 19, 2006, 12:17:31 PM
Dear Fellow Diver,

When divers socialize and the talk turns to big, high-adventure dives, you can count on deep diving to come up. There’s no doubt about it – many of my most memorable dives were deep dives. But, the motives divers have for deep diving can be poor ones or good ones. Deep diving can be a thrill - and that can be good or bad, depending on your approach.

“Thrill” is a word with many shades. It can mean sticking your neck out irresponsibly and recklessly, purely for a rush. If that’s your idea of fun, please don’t get on the same boat with me. On the other hand, a thrill can be the excitement that comes with doing something potentially hazardous and challenging, but in a way that responsibly manages the risk. There’s nothing wrong with deep diving for the reward of extending your personal limits and accomplishments this way, and the best way to do it is through PADI Deep Diver training.

The reason training is important is that our margin for error narrows with depth – and that’s not really an issue provided absolutely nothing goes wrong and you make no mistakes. As we go deeper, we use air faster and have shorter no stop limits. The surface is much farther away and harder to reach. Dive accidents usually result from not one, but several errors that link into a chain leading to disaster. On a deep dive, that chain is very, very short.

Conditions, combined with depth, also affect your risk. In recreational diving, we define “deep” as 18 metres/60 feet to no more than 40 metres/130 feet. But, 30 metres/100 feet in warm, clear water may be a milk run compared to 12 metres/40 feet in a cold, low-viz current. So, training as a PADI Deep Diver sometimes pays big dividends on surprisingly shallow dives.

If the idea of deep diving excites you and you’ve yet to take the PADI Deep Diver course, I encourage you to do so. Not only will you get one step towards your PADI Master Scuba Diver certification, you’ll learn how to manage the added risk that comes with deep diving, and how to be prepared for emergencies and errors that can happen. You’re likely to find it a rewarding challenge that helps you grow as a diver. And, it’s a thrill. The good kind.

Good diving

Sincerely,



Drew Richardson
President and Chief Operating Officer
PADI Worldwide
8  ROATAN COMMUNITY / General Discussion / Nightlife on roatan on: July 18, 2006, 09:09:06 AM
Hi guys

This is DJ mojito working hard to get some music together to play alongside serge and ilias at some point.
Check out the fun friday night at fosters, with good house music and lots of dancing.

dj mojito

ps see you at sun jam utila
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